Is the ATF really this stupid?

FN Forum

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 11
  1. #1
    Senior Member KIRK'S AWAY TEAM (GOLD SHIRT)
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Nomad
    Posts
    390
    Thanked
    18 times

    Is the ATF really this stupid?


  2. #2
    Senior Member FORCE RECON WANTS HIM SONYtec's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    12,496
    Thanked
    180 times
    I better hit up the store, before word gets to the masses.

    11:00 P.M. EST Nov 4th, 2008, My nightmare came true...
    12:00 P.M. EST Jan 20th, 2009, screwing began...
    10:00 P.M. EST SUNDAY Mar 21st 2010, healthcare SHOVED down our throats!

    Tuesday Nov 6th, 2012, We can CHANGE the president.

  3. #3
    Super Moderator MAX PAYNE
    FN Supporter
    MP_OHIO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Central Ohio
    Posts
    7,859
    Thanked
    298 times
    Put down the Chore Boy and back away from the weaponry!"

    It's an order that actually could be heard, given that a letter has surfaced from the federal government warning against consumers stockpiling Chore Boy household scrubbers because they can be considered a component of a gun silencer and, therefore, regulated by federal gun laws.

    The letter is from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the ATF. It was obtained by David Codrea, who publishes online as the Gun Rights Examiner.

    And it comes from a federal agency that earlier determined a 14-inch-long piece of shoestring must be regulated under federal gun laws and restrictions because it is a "machinegun."

    Finally ... self defense for the rest of us. Here are the resources you need to protect your life, your family and your property

    The latest unusual determination from the agency is found in a letter submitted to the agency on behalf of a client. The letter is dated Nov. 26, 2010, and Codrea said it was obtained recently.

    In it, an attorney was asking about a repair that a client wished to make on an already-registered silencer for a .22 caliber rifle.

    "Does sound/gas absorbing materials manufactured from Chore Boy copper clean pads, along with fiberglass insulation, constitute a silencer part as defined in 18 U.S.C 921(a)(24)?" he asked.

    "Yes," confirmed the letter signed by John R. Spencer, the chief of the Firearms Technology Branch. "Gas/sound-absorbing material is the same as a baffle in that it is designed to reduce/trap hot gases within the expansion tube to allow cooling before they are released from the silencer, subsequently reducing sound."

    Spencer, responding to a question about whether such material which becomes worn in a silencer could be replaced, said it would be a violation of federal law.

    "Replacement of any component part or parts of a registered silencer, other than a silencer wipe, would be a violation of the NFA if performed by a non-licensed manufacturer," the letter said.

    The correct procedure would be for the owner of the registered silencer to submit an application to the ATF and pay a $200 tax, the letter said.

    "Further, he would have to submit a 'no-marking' variance to FTB since there is no viable area in which to apply a serial number to the sound-absorbing material," Spencer wrote.

    He also noted that it would not be lawful for the owner of the registered silencer to "have a stockpile of sound-absorbing materials for his own use in replacing deteriorated sound-absorbing material."



    Read more: No joke! ATF bans scrub-pad stockpiles http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=368769#ixzz1fJS8Fjc5

    Read more: No joke! ATF bans scrub-pad stockpiles http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=368769#ixzz1fJRn5qIE
    x
    x
    x
    x
    Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass, its learning how to dance in the rain.
    x
    You see in this world there's two kinds of people my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig?

  4. #4
    FN Supporter MAX PAYNE
    FN Supporter
    jhs27275's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    7,831
    Thanked
    374 times
    Quote Originally Posted by MP_OHIO
    The correct procedure would be for the owner of the registered silencer to submit an application to the ATF and pay a $200 tax, the letter said.
    The only time you'd need to pay the tax again is if the tube was damaged beyond repair and had to be replaced.

    He needs to review his own rules and regs.

    Gemtax anyone.

  5. #5
    Senior Member FORCE RECON WANTS HIM SONYtec's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    12,496
    Thanked
    180 times
    Quote Originally Posted by jhs27275
    He needs to review his own rules and regs.
    He just changed them, from his letter.
    11:00 P.M. EST Nov 4th, 2008, My nightmare came true...
    12:00 P.M. EST Jan 20th, 2009, screwing began...
    10:00 P.M. EST SUNDAY Mar 21st 2010, healthcare SHOVED down our throats!

    Tuesday Nov 6th, 2012, We can CHANGE the president.

  6. #6
    Senior Member DO YOU FEEL LUCKY, WELL DO YA PUNK? jathtech's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Phoenix, Arizona
    Posts
    753
    Thanked
    35 times
    thats almost as bad as the FBI running around and asking gun store owners if they sell "night time flashlights". Who the hell uses them in the day time?
    ”A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders.”
    ~Larry Elder


  7. #7
    FN Supporter MAX PAYNE
    FN Supporter
    jhs27275's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    7,831
    Thanked
    374 times
    Quote Originally Posted by SONYtec
    He just changed them, from his letter.
    Still not even close to what they have told all the SOT's.

  8. #8
    Senior Member CAN KILL YOU WITH JUST HIS FINGER
    FN Supporter
    GULL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    NW AR
    Posts
    1,213
    Thanked
    23 times
    In the dark of night, deep in the bowels of a hidden room in his basement, Joe Sixpack refreshes his suppressor in violation of BATF interpretation of their rules. Suddenly, his freedom is taken as black hooded agents burst through the ........ Yada Yada Yada.
    FN SCAR 16
    FNP 45 Tactical
    Glock 19 (26 years old)
    S&W Mod 66 (34 years old)
    S&W Mod 60 (25 years old)

  9. #9
    Senior Member KIRK'S AWAY TEAM (GOLD SHIRT) TAFFY003's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    College Station, TX
    Posts
    395
    Thanked
    14 times
    Quote Originally Posted by GULL
    In the dark of night, deep in the bowels of a hidden room in his basement, Joe Sixpack refreshes his suppressor in violation of BATF interpretation of their rules. Suddenly, his freedom is taken as black hooded agents burst through the ........ Yada Yada Yada.
    Joe's family is later arrested for having illegal machine guns on their shoes.
    RRRAAAAAAWWWWWRRRRR*

    *either means "I love you" or "I'm going to feast on your innards" in dinosaur, I forget which.

  10. #10
    Senior Member KIRK'S AWAY TEAM (GOLD SHIRT)
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Nomad
    Posts
    390
    Thanked
    18 times
    Quote Originally Posted by jathtech
    thats almost as bad as the FBI running around and asking gun store owners if they sell "night time flashlights". Who the hell uses them in the day time?
    Those are in the isle with left handed ink pens

Sponsors

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Search tags for this page

atf is stupid