My first FAL

[TNBandit]

I think the grey area is where you draw the line on the definition of the word "assemble" or more to the point, where the government draws the line since that's the word they use in the 922r rule. To me "assemble" means to create something out of a number of individual components. To some of you guys the simple act of replacing 1 part with another similar part but of different manufacture means assemble. My definition makes the most sense if you think about it but then again, nothing the government does makes sense... I'm pretty sure BATFE isn't going to kick your door in for replacing the FSE HTS set that causes your rifle to accidently go full auto with an imported set that actually works as it's supposed to. For years people have been asking for someone to post ONE incident where a guy got prosecuted for violating 922r and so far those requests have gone unanswered. gunplumber once exposed Entreprise for stamping "USA" on imported mag floorplates and selling them as compliance parts & they didn't get raided. I think Joe Shmoe is safe. Just my humble opinion.

[MedicalShooter]

If one could provide a circumstance where an owner of a weapon has been tapped due to 922r violation BECAUSE he was gifted a buttholed rifle and swapped out the furniture....because it was simply gay or because it made the weapon uncomfortable....it would go a lot further. Until then....speculating what 922r incorporates and how it is interpreted is a mute subject. Kinda like practicing law without a license. Someone who is gifted or buys a rifle and swaps furniture is just that....a gun owner who made his rifle more personal. It does not make them a manufacturer or an assembler of ANYTHING. To argue that it does, aside from giving the feds encouragement to practice law without a license, shows a severe lack of commonsense.


The same is applied to the government. They cannot interpret their own stupid laws either...hence the need of the Supreme Court. If anyone doubts the government knows not the difference between their arsehole and a hole in the ground....look no further than the tax law, federal cannabis policies and of course guns.



AND the biggest odd in the favor of ANY civilian is the simple but true statement that a FREE MAN DOES NOT ASK PERMISSION FOR ANYTHING....he is FREE! If they do not like the Constitution....like they tell us, they can amend it.



In America, laws were not meant to be up for interpretation. They were to be followed as they were written....to the letter of the law. Problem the feds found was it kept their hands tied on snoopin and poopin on the People. And to anyone unfamiliar with our Constitution...I suggest you research the Equality Clause contained therein.



Screw the practicing law....we will go with dereliction of duty. ATF is supposed to collect taxes....they have shown the American people they were incompetent of conducting law enforcement duties not once....not twice....but several times over in my short 31 yrs here.

[Redleg]

I think the grey area is where you draw the line on the definition of the word "assemble" or more to the point, where the government draws the line since that's the word they use in the 922r rule. To me "assemble" means to create something out of a number of individual components. To some of you guys the simple act of replacing 1 part with another similar part but of different manufacture means assemble. My definition makes the most sense if you think about it but then again, nothing the government does makes sense... I'm pretty sure BATFE isn't going to kick your door in for replacing the FSE HTS set that causes your rifle to accidently go full auto with an imported set that actually works as it's supposed to. For years people have been asking for someone to post ONE incident where a guy got prosecuted for violating 922r and so far those requests have gone unanswered. gunplumber once exposed Entreprise for stamping "USA" on imported mag floorplates and selling them as compliance parts & they didn't get raided. I think Joe Shmoe is safe. Just my humble opinion.

Well the consideration of a replacement part being a violation is nonsense. Parts and accruements will likely change as the ownership changes, and that is my basis of the party resopnsible for 922r and is soley the manufacturer or original assembler.
In my travels, I see firearms in the racks of gunstores which are for sale as pre-bans and are not pre-bands nor are some visably 922r compliant. I'm not too sure BATF&E inspectors inspect each and every semi-auto firearm to determine if they are compliant or not. In my experience, they would only check the serial numbers of my long guns and handguns against my log book.
I never had an issue of selling firearms with the thumbhole stocks and fake flashiders removed from early post ban imports, including AKMs, SAR4800 or SAR8s.

As I have stated before, personally ignoring the law as an assembler may likely place you in a uncompromising position if questioned by authorities or when the firearm is passed on to someone else.
I realize there is a lot of whistling pass the graveyard on these type issues and it is better to be safe than sorry, but know fact from fiction.

[MedicalShooter]

Let me re emphasize that I am NOT advocating doing ANYTHING illegal. I am advocating that everyone should follow the letter of the law. Simple.

[MedicalShooter]

....And a Black's Legal Dictionary (I am sure Clyde has one) would LEGALLY define "manufacturer", "manufacture", "assemble" and "assembler".

[Texican 45]

I used to be a regular over on the FAL Files for years from the year 2000 - I had a three digit member number. In all the time I was there duscissions about 922r compliance basically pointed out that it was unlikely that the BATFE would jail you for possessing a rifle built in a way that was not compliant with 922r but they most probably would confiscate your rifle. It would be hard for the BATF to prove that you were the builder who left out the US made parts but it would be easy to show the parts were missing.

In addition, the costs to you to get a lawyer and try to get your rifle back would be many times the value of that rifle - and by going the cheap route and not buying the extra $100 in parts to make it compliant you pretty much prove you would not spend money on a lawyer. I am really surprised the BATFE doesn't send agents to gun shows and round up all the non-compliant rifles they see. Talk about low hanging fruit.