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    Quote Originally Posted by Patton250 View Post
    Brother he hammered people complaining about warranties being voided pretty good. I would consider it condescending and a tad bit hypocritical since he manufactures parts and sells parts that modify and then of course void the warranty of the platform we are talking about. There is no doubt in my mind he knows a lot more special forces guys and I do but I would bet everything I own on the planet that he has absolutely no idea what they do on every mission. Remember he said "NEVER". If he does know what they do on every mission what is he doing selling parts for weapons? He should be at the horse track because he is psychic.

    I understand your point about the rules on the scar 17 from FN. However everything affects the operational function of the firearm. If you change the break, trigger, charging handle and especially the entire lower. I've made my point that I disagree but it's not my company and they have every right to do what they want. Them trying to void the warranty for somebody putting a suppressor on their platform is like to Ford voiding the warranty of their pick up trucks if you actually engage all four wheels on a four-wheel-drive. Imagine them putting in their warranty booklet they didn't actually mean for you to flip the switch to four-wheel-drive and if you do the warrantee on your truck is voided. Good grief.
    Technically I don't think they are saying your warranty is voided for running suppressed as much as if a suppressor caused failure occurred, they wont cover it. While Ford wont void your warranty for using 4x4, you can bet they would for using 4x4 to drag race at the track, or jump it off road when something broke. As I said previously, every suppressor is different, and unless they want to call out a specific manufacturer such as Sig and HK did to be "ok to use" on their weapons, it is probably easier just to say suppressing it voids any suppressor related problems. I really don't know of any manufacturer that would cover suppressor related failures, especially if its less than 1% of the recorded failures, and more than likely may have other things contributing to the problem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FenixMike View Post
    Technically I don't think they are saying your warranty is voided for running suppressed as much as if a suppressor caused failure occurred, they wont cover it. While Ford wont void your warranty for using 4x4, you can bet they would for using 4x4 to drag race at the track, or jump it off road when something broke. As I said previously, every suppressor is different, and unless they want to call out a specific manufacturer such as Sig and HK did to be "ok to use" on their weapons, it is probably easier just to say suppressing it voids any suppressor related problems. I really don't know of any manufacturer that would cover suppressor related failures, especially if its less than 1% of the recorded failures, and more than likely may have other things contributing to the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patton250 View Post
    Brother he hammered people complaining about warranties being voided pretty good. I would consider it condescending and a tad bit hypocritical since he manufactures parts and sells parts that modify and then of course void the warranty of the platform we are talking about. There is no doubt in my mind he knows a lot more special forces guys and I do but I would bet everything I own on the planet that he has absolutely no idea what they do on every mission. Remember he said "NEVER". If he does know what they do on every mission what is he doing selling parts for weapons? He should be at the horse track because he is psychic.

    I understand your point about the rules on the scar 17 from FN. However everything affects the operational function of the firearm. If you change the break, trigger, charging handle and especially the entire lower. I've made my point that I disagree but it's not my company and they have every right to do what they want. Them trying to void the warranty for somebody putting a suppressor on their platform is like to Ford voiding the warranty of their pick up trucks if you actually engage all four wheels on a four-wheel-drive. Imagine them putting in their warranty booklet they didn't actually mean for you to flip the switch to four-wheel-drive and if you do the warrantee on your truck is voided. Good grief.
    He manufactures parts for a wide variation of end users including SWO. I hammer people who gripe about voided warranties too especially when the end use is clearly at fault. Ever since that incident with Frrr3 or whatever his moniker was on the other forum and his "My FiveseveN blew up because it fired out of battery", when we all now know that he used reloaded ammo and destroyed his own firearm. I do not think that FN will void every warranty on every firearm that has a suppressor but they probably and will void a warranty on suppressor caused secondary issues which I what I think this thread is all about - not because I used a suppressor and FN decided to void my warranty.

    As to the word NEVER, come on Brett are you really going to base your argument on the use of the word NEVER? Maybe he is right with the SWO's that he has dealt with and in his experience working with them, they are the ones that said never and he is repeating what he heard. I really do not care but I remember carrying a full auto M16 and being instructed to NEVER use auto fire unless I was in fire suppression mode, which I never was. But I used it a ton of times just blowing away ammo at the range. So was that really NEVER or NEAR NEVER? Never can mean never until one pops up and says, wait a minute, I did. It is really immaterial. He states what he knows and whether you choose to challenge him on it or not is your decision but I am pretty sure there are bigger fish to fry so to speak.

    No, not everything. My sling does not affect the operational function of the firearm. Neither does my ACOG. Neither does my Bipod. So not EVERYTHING affects the operational functioning of the SCAR17. And again we are talking about a single firearm that the warranty was voided for use of a suppressor. Give you 10 to 1 odds that it was the mis-use of a suppressor. I hardly think the originator of this statement is going to come forward with the real deal on this issue.

    The Ford issue....well, I bought a 2009 Ford Escape specifically because it was listed as being able to be towed 4 wheels down. So I set it up to be towed behind my Motor Home and first trip, tranny went out. Towed to a Ford dealership. Refused to repair the tranny under warranty because it was not "serviced" for towing prior to being towed. WTH, there is nothing in the manual about servicing for towing. Ford notified the dealers in a TSB about servicing trannys so they dumped the issue on the local dealership that sold me the car. Local dealership said uh uh....not our problem as Ford was the one that said tow-able 4 wheels down and never mentioned anything about us having to notify anyone of anything in the TSB. See where I am going with this?????? Crap, I'm 2/3rds the way across the country from the dealership.

    He used NEVER, you used EVERYTHING and we have come full circle and still have no resolution for the original subject of this thread that has be hijacked at least 3 times. This really is getting old and has gone on for too long. Use the darn IGNORE feature and it will be like he does not exist instead of constantly bumping heads over little stuff like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HK SD9 Tactical View Post
    He manufactures parts for a wide variation of end users including SWO. I hammer people who gripe about voided warranties too especially when the end use is clearly at fault. Ever since that incident with Frrr3 or whatever his moniker was on the other forum and his "My FiveseveN blew up because it fired out of battery", when we all now know that he used reloaded ammo and destroyed his own firearm. I do not think that FN will void every warranty on every firearm that has a suppressor but they probably and will void a warranty on suppressor caused secondary issues which I what I think this thread is all about - not because I used a suppressor and FN decided to void my warranty.

    As to the word NEVER, come on Brett are you really going to base your argument on the use of the word NEVER? Maybe he is right with the SWO's that he has dealt with and in his experience working with them, they are the ones that said never and he is repeating what he heard. I really do not care but I remember carrying a full auto M16 and being instructed to NEVER use auto fire unless I was in fire suppression mode, which I never was. But I used it a ton of times just blowing away ammo at the range. So was that really NEVER or NEAR NEVER? Never can mean never until one pops up and says, wait a minute, I did. It is really immaterial. He states what he knows and whether you choose to challenge him on it or not is your decision but I am pretty sure there are bigger fish to fry so to speak.

    No, not everything. My sling does not affect the operational function of the firearm. Neither does my ACOG. Neither does my Bipod. So not EVERYTHING affects the operational functioning of the SCAR17. And again we are talking about a single firearm that the warranty was voided for use of a suppressor. Give you 10 to 1 odds that it was the mis-use of a suppressor. I hardly think the originator of this statement is going to come forward with the real deal on this issue.

    The Ford issue....well, I bought a 2009 Ford Escape specifically because it was listed as being able to be towed 4 wheels down. So I set it up to be towed behind my Motor Home and first trip, tranny went out. Towed to a Ford dealership. Refused to repair the tranny under warranty because it was not "serviced" for towing prior to being towed. WTH, there is nothing in the manual about servicing for towing. Ford notified the dealers in a TSB about servicing trannys so they dumped the issue on the local dealership that sold me the car. Local dealership said uh uh....not our problem as Ford was the one that said tow-able 4 wheels down and never mentioned anything about us having to notify anyone of anything in the TSB. See where I am going with this?????? Crap, I'm 2/3rds the way across the country from the dealership.

    He used NEVER, you used EVERYTHING and we have come full circle and still have no resolution for the original subject of this thread that has be hijacked at least 3 times. This really is getting old and has gone on for too long. Use the darn IGNORE feature and it will be like he does not exist instead of constantly bumping heads over little stuff like this.
    Ok man. Sorry about your Escape. That stinks.

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