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    Senior Member KIRK'S AWAY TEAM (blue shirt) Kalmar's Avatar
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    Apparently both C-Products and DSArms will be releasing SCAR-H magazines in the next 3-4 weeks. Expect 25, 20, 10 and 5 rounders to be available soon.

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    Yeah, i saw that on ARFcom. Nice that there will be options on that....Yayyyy Hopefully the prices won't be through the roof as i would like to pick up 4 or 40 of them.

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    I wouldn't bet the farm (if I had one) on other sources when it comes to accuracy/reliability. I would like to know where they got the dimensions from, as I doubt FN just gave the specs away.

    Magazines in this platform can either make or kill accuracy.

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    Senior Member KIRK'S AWAY TEAM (blue shirt) Kalmar's Avatar
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    C-Products -

    We just finished testing the 25 round magazine. We fired 25 rounds semi and full auto without any FTF. We expect to have stock on them in 3-4 weeks. We will also be producing a 5 and 10 round SCAR Heavy magazine.

    Larry
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    We were just at the same test with a 20 round mag 200 rounds full auto through the 13" and 16" no FTF the guns got pretty hot. 3-4 weeks is the lead time.

    The rifle has alot of recoil in full auto compared to the 11" and 13" OSW FAL we make in semi its okay. Its a very light rifle and well made I liked it much better than the SCAR 16.

    The SCAR mag is a joy to make next to the FAL mag.

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    Senior Member GEORGE S PATTON SgtStrykerUSMC43's Avatar
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    So CP fired (2) mags for a total of 50 rounds and DSA fired through (1) magazine (10) X, for a total of 200 rounds. That's not saying much.

    Give it a year or so and get some real world feedback. The main concern should be how the magazines deform the concentricity between the bullet/case, which directly effects accuracy.

    I'll say the SCAR 17S owners will come out of the woodwork if the guns don't shoot as well as they should with non-FN magazines. And if they do shoot as well, then I'll be eating a bit of crow, but, experience tells me to be pessimistic.

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    Hummm . . . I would be suspicious too. I have had great results with C Products mags on AR15's, but not so much with the 308's -- from POF, DPMS, KAC, or REPR (of course I got an early example with the out of spec magwell). Now DSArms might be a different story. It appears pretty hard to screw up a good FAL mag, so we'll have to see. It can't be as easy as a standard FAL mag with a slot cut in the side, but what do I know. The best 308 mag I have ever used with consistent success is the G3/HK91 design. FAL mags would come in second. I hear RRA is also coming out with a polymer FAL mag for their 308 as well (which I have also tested with positive results). Maybe they could adapt their polymer design to work with the SCAR-H?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monolithman
    It can't be as easy as a standard FAL mag with a slot cut in the side, but what do I know.
    You're correct, as the FAL incorporates a tilting bolt, whereas the SCAR 17S utilizes the 60 degree rotating bolt. If anybody can snap a photo of the rear view of the FAL mag at the feed lips and compare that to the same area of an AR-15 magazine, it would give everyone a better understanding of the differences, and potential problem of trying to modify the FAL magazine to the 17S.

    The absolute best magazine in 30 cal. that I came across (for accuracy) is the U.S.G.I. issue M-14 units. They never deformed the geometry of a loaded cartridge. That's one of the reasons the weapon has been so popular for so long with match shooters and snipers.

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    One of the posts on ARF.com had pictures of the 17 magazine including the rear. If it's not a modified FAL mag, it's a close cousin. I'm hoping C-Products mags fill the bill at a reasonable price.
    As to reliable .308 mags, I have to agree that the G3 mag is the best followed by the FAL mag. The M14 mag is O.K for field use but single loading them in Hi-Power competition generally leads to distorted followers after awhile. I kept 2 of 3 just for the slow fire stages and used others for the rapid fire stages.

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    After DSArms debacle with their "new and improved" FAL magzines, I'd cross them off the list for reliable aftermarket SCAR mags.

    BTW, What's the latest word on SCAR 17S magazines availability from FN?
    The AR is the rifle for the masses and the SCAR is the rifle for the classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burt Gummer
    After DSArms debacle with their "new and improved" FAL magzines, I'd cross them off the list for reliable aftermarket SCAR mags.


    Quote Originally Posted by Burt Gummer
    BTW, What's the latest word on SCAR 17S magazines availability from FN?
    No word as of yet, as the current production of magazines is slated for rifles [commercial] and of course the troops in the sandbox.

    Be patient, as people should have done with the FNAR magazines but didn't. So as not to drive the prices up to the $100.00+ level as we'd seen with the FNAR magazines last year.
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