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    The SBR barrels are designed for CQC. Terminal ballistics suffer as a result with cropping barrels down to CQC length. This is why the SCAR-H platform is fielded with several barrel lengths.

    Shot placement becomes ever more critical when the projectile's velocity is degraded to anemic levels and terminal ballistics are neutered.

    Can't argue with physics...

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    Red face

    Oh, and I'm going to hacksaw a 7.62 SCAR barrel down to 10" so the projectile will not even rotate one full turn before exiting the bore. Then I'll try shooting it at 1000 yards.

    ....just to see if I can drop the rainbow into the 6' target.

    Wish me luck, fellas!

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    I forgot to add...


    WITH iron sights!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patton250 View Post
    I don't understand. Are you saying that a 308 bullet shot from a 13" barrel won't penetrate the human body and kill at 800 yards?
    Didn't you get the memo, anything under 16" means bullets will bounce off of people past 500.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtStrykerUSMC43 View Post
    The SBR barrels are designed for CQC. Terminal ballistics suffer as a result with cropping barrels down to CQC length. This is why the SCAR-H platform is fielded with several barrel lengths.

    Shot placement becomes ever more critical when the projectile's velocity is degraded to anemic levels and terminal ballistics are neutered.

    Can't argue with physics...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtStrykerUSMC43 View Post
    Oh, and I'm going to hacksaw a 7.62 SCAR barrel down to 10" so the projectile will not even rotate one full turn before exiting the bore. Then I'll try shooting it at 1000 yards.

    ....just to see if I can drop the rainbow into the 6' target.

    Wish me luck, fellas!

    -SS
    Will it kill at 800 yards or not? I appreciate sarcasm but the question was not answered. I thought I was trying to help get you a sale Sarge.
    I guess in the end I f-ed up. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_V!per View Post
    Didn't you get the memo, anything under 16" means bullets will bounce off of people past 500.

    *Don't mean to poke Talhoffer, couldn't resist.

    It's OK.


    I don't want to continue derailing the OP thread, another thread should be stated if we really want to keep debating this.
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    Answer to
    will it kill at 800 yards or not...
    If the skull is penetrated - 50/50 chance, that is IF the shooter is lucky enough to actually make a head shot at 800 yards.

    If the shooter hits the torso, and fails to sever an artery, no, not right away. The bad guy will actually suck air for quite a long while.

    Most of the guys who are buying the CQC SCAR barrels aren't looking to make shots out past 200-300 yards. Some are just wanting them because it looks cool and there's nothing negative to say about that either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talhoffer View Post
    Went with a 1.5-8 IOR on mine, more than enough to do everything I need this carbine to do.


    Great minds think alike...

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    WRT barrel length, you need to think about what you want the weapon to do.

    A 13" 17 is going to be much more lethal than a SBR 10" 16. But of course taking off those 3" is going to hurt terminal ballistics, especially at range.

    To most of us it's academic, we'll never engage human targets, let alone at that range. Personally, I'm going to get a CQC barrel for both my 16 and 17, but keep the longer barrels and change them to suit my needs. The paperwork is in progress, as are the same for the suppressor.

    Lastly, I don't think we'll find volunteers to test the effectiveness, or lack thereof, of a SBR SCAR at longer ranges...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtStrykerUSMC43 View Post
    Then I'll try shooting it at 1000 yards.

    ....just to see if I can drop the rainbow into the 6' target.

    Wish me luck, fellas!

    -SS
    I'd hate to be in the trench changing targets when that 308 mortar came in.

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