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    and bad news Supreme court struck down stolen valor act. Its like an oreo cookie, with really yummy cream filling sandwiched between two **** pickles

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    What is it with those blacked robe morons? I learned more about the Constitution in 9th grade civics class than any of those idiots know now. There is no right to say whatever you wan whenever you want in the Constitution. It only was intended to grant the right to free political speech and prevent an overarching frederal government from persecuting someone for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17heavy View Post
    What is it with those blacked robe morons? I learned more about the Constitution in 9th grade civics class than any of those idiots know now. There is no right to say whatever you wan whenever you want in the Constitution. It only was intended to grant the right to free political speech and prevent an overarching frederal government from persecuting someone for it.
    If you limit speech - ANY speech - it's no longer free speech. That's not to say someone found to be lying can't be kicked in the nuts, proverbially...

    Also, here's a small ray of hope for ya'll so no one offs somebody over this Supreme Court BS: Chief Justice Roberts Is A Genius | I. M. Citizen

    Is it a pipe dream? Maybe, but we can hope.

    P.S. The Supreme Court has always sucked giant donkey cock.
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    We got Kennedy! He didn't have to play games he just needed to shoot this worthless bill down.
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    Another view point-

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    Before you look to do harm to Chief Justice Roberts or his family, it’s important that you think carefully about the meaning – the true nature — of his ruling on Obama-care. The Left will shout that they won, that Obama-care was upheld and all the rest. Let them.
    It will be a short-lived celebration.
    Here’s what really occurred — payback. Yes, payback for Obama’s numerous, ill-advised and childish insults directed toward SCOTUS.

    Chief Justice Roberts actually ruled the mandate, relative to the commerce clause, was unconstitutional. That’s how the Democrats got Obama-care going in the first place. This is critical. His ruling means Congress can’t compel American citizens to purchase anything. Ever. The notion is now officially and forever, unconstitutional. As it should be.
    Next, he stated that, because Congress doesn’t have the ability to mandate, it must, to fund Obama-care, rely on its power to tax. Therefore, the mechanism that funds Obama-care is a tax. This is also critical. Recall back during the initial Obama-care battles, the Democrats called it a penalty, Republicans called it a tax. Democrats consistently soft sold it as a penalty. It went to vote as a penalty. Obama declared endlessly, that it was not a tax, it was a penalty. But when the Democrats argued in front of the Supreme Court, they said ‘hey, a penalty or a tax, either way’. So, Roberts gave them a tax. It is now the official law of the land — beyond word-play and silly shenanigans. Obama-care is funded by tax dollars. Democrats now must defend a tax increase to justify the Obama-care law.
    Finally, he struck down as unconstitutional, the Obama-care idea that the federal government can bully states into complying by yanking their existing medicaid funding. Liberals, through Obama-care, basically said to the states — ‘comply with Obama-care or we will stop existing funding.’ Roberts ruled that is a no-no. If a state takes the money, fine, the Feds can tell the state how to run a program, but if the state refuses money, the federal government can’t penalize the state by yanking other funding. Therefore, a state can decline to participate in Obama-care without penalty. This is obviously a serious problem. Are we going to have 10, 12, 25 states not participating in “national” health-care? Suddenly, it’s not national, is it?
    Ultimately, Roberts supported states rights by limiting the federal government’s coercive abilities. He ruled that the government can not force the people to purchase products or services under the commerce clause and he forced liberals to have to come clean and admit that Obama-care is funded by tax increases.
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