Millet TRS-1

[djv38]

Just got a Millet TRS-1 in today to replace the BSA Sweet 17 I had on my Savage 93 in 17 HMR.

Got it from Natchezss: http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...001A&src=tpMfg

This scope is far superior to the BSA POS. Glass is much clearer, side focus is smooth and very nice, lockable turrets, better and smoother zoom. At 16X, the image is much clearer than the BSA at 10X. The illuminated reticule on the Millet also is very bright with 11 settings (one for NV).

My buddy just got a Nikon Monarch 4-16X50 (same as the millet) with side focus. Glass IMO is comparable, but his does not have the 'tactical' turrets and they don't lock (but they have caps, so not a big deal). The side focus on the Nikon does lock while the Millet does not, but the Millet nob is smoother and I don't think it will shift unless you bump it significantly. Also, the Millet has the bars on the turrets that let you know how many revolutions you have made. I'm not sure if the Nikon has that or not as I didn't really check for that.

This scope is a huge step up from BSA and construction wise, is very good. Glass isn't as good as the Trijicon Accupoint I looked for, but for $250 it's a lot of scope for the money (and $150+ cheaper than my buddies Nikon, and I feel I got a better scope).

I'll post some pics Friday when I'm done with finals

[Talhoffer]

I think you'll be real happy with that Millet, I did a Rem 700 in 308 for a buddy of mine with the Nikon Monarch 4-16 some time ago. I shoot the rifle a lot over one summer with him but he got hurting for money and he sold the whole setup off, we just got him a Rem 700 AAC rifle and to save him save him some money he chose the same Millet just in black. I personally would agree with you on your feelings on the Nikon vs the Millet for the money.

I have used those Millets before and for the money they make a good setup, like I said, I think you'll be happy. The only thing I don't care for is the size of the side focus knob.

[djv38]

The side focus nob is a bit large, but, yeah, I think I'll be very happy with it considering the BSA garbage I had on it previously. I had to have my eyes perfectly lined up with it to use it on 12x. Lesson learned. If you want decent glass, you need to spend over a couple hundred dollars.

[djv38]

And for some pictures:


You can see the turret markings:


Illumination (on setting 5 out of 10... honestly not going to use it much)


You can kind of see the reticule, but it is kind of difficult to get a good picture through a scope

[djv38]

Okay, got it sighted in. These are supposedly mechanically zeroed, meaning it's in the middle of where it should need to be...

This thing was way off at 50 yards. Finally got it on paper and decided to zero my 17 hmr at 100 yards. I had to do just about 3 complete revolutions up to get it on and about 2 to the right. Still don't have it perfect, but ran out of ammo trying to figure out where it was shooting initially (first 5 shots I didn't have my friends spotting for me...)

Not sure if this is normal on these scope or not. I don't think the two piece rail on my gun is off seeing as how the BSA was closer to mechanical zero. I'm using Warne Maxima rings and they are level as well. I could see why having it so high would be good for long range shooting, but this just seemed a bit ridiculous.

I may just zero it at 25, then see where it shoots at 50 and 100 and see if it's still doing the same thing if I try to zero it at 100 again...

[djv38]

I should also note the Nikon with the Niko plex reticule has a finer reticule and the edges are clearer, but otherwise, clarity and brightness of the glass compared to the millet are about equal (the opinion of 3 shooters). We came to the conclusion that the Millet was a better scope for the money considering it was over $150 cheaper than the Nikon and pretty much just loosing some edge clarity.

[djv38]

Been having issues getting it zeroed properly. Not sure what is going on, but I have the elevation all the way up and almost all the way right. It appears to be centered on the rifle. Not sure if it is a scope issue, ring issue or base (although the BSA was on the same base, and there were no zeroing issues with that). It's either the rings or the scope, swapped the front ring for the rear, same problem when sighting through the bore.

So, basically, if bullet impact is high, I'll be okay and if it's to the left I'll be fine, but last time I had it out, at 100 yards, it still wasn't on. 25 yards is just as bad. I'm a little baffled by it.

[djv38]

I'm not sure what's going on. May have either a scope or ring issue. Bullet impact was very low and to bring it up, pretty much ran out of elevation, so I can really only adjust for high impacts. It was also very far left, and to bring bullet impact to the right, I nearly ran out of windage adjustment. These issues I confirmed by bore sighting, and the scope appears to be straight on the rifle. I don't think there is a base issue as my previous scope didn't have a problem.

[cetane]

It is such a small fraction of a hair to be off by I dont think you can tell by looking at the scope on the rifle. If its off by 1 degree thats like 10' at 100 yards. Its going to be vary tough to figure out whats wrong.

[djv38]

I actually took the two piece base off, swapped the front and back and that actually changed it a bit. I'll take it out Wednesday and see where it's at (it does seem to have helped. The bases may have been a little loose, might eventually get a one piece base, but I have other priorities at the moment)